Server Team 20080701 meeting minutes

Here are the minutes of the meeting. They can also be found online
with the irc logs here.

MIR for Recommends

mathiaz followed up on ubuntu-devel about MIR for Recommends. ScottK asked if there was a script to check for missing recommends in Main. cjwatson said he had almost implemented Recommends support in germinate.

mathiaz asked whether writing MIR for these packages is an easy task and could be given to new contributors. The MIR template lays out the steps and some of its points require packaging knowledge. cjwatson also noted that not all the packages should have MIR written for as some of them should be moved to Suggests instead. The MIR written by non-developers should also be reviewed by a developer before subscribing ubuntu-mir in order to make sure that the report is well-formed and ease the load on the MIR team.

Spec status

Most of the MIR related to amavisd-dkim have been done. clamav-spamassassin-in-main has a stack of MIR that need to be written. ScottK agreed to be the reviewer for the MIR. Anyone interested in helping out should select a MIR from the list and ping ScottK for a quick review before subscribing ubuntu-mir.

nxvl has uploaded a new version of augeas to REVU. He already got an ACK from a MOTU and thus waits for a second one. Once the package is available in the archive, he will focus on writing lenses. He also added that the perl bindings had been released. foolano, an ebox developer, said he would look into using the newly released perl bindings to integrate it in ebox.

soren started a rewrite of ubuntu-vm-builder in python to make it easier to use from other applications. Although the code is already available in LP, it’s alpha quality – expect things to change a bit in the coming weeks.

mathiaz reminded everyone about the FeatureFreeze deadline for the intrepid release cycle: August, 28th. Specs should have a working state by this date and uploaded in the archive.

ACTION: mathiaz to update the ServerTeam roadmap with the list of intrepid specs.

Server survey status

mathiaz asked about the status of the server survey. nijaba has been in contact with james who found some hardware to host the survey.

nijaba asked whether an analyst firm could join the survey. It would bring more coverage. That raised the question of who could get access to the anonymised raw data of the survey and draw their own conclusions. After some discussion it was decided that access to anonymized raw data would be given to members of both the ubuntu-server and ubuntumembers teams in LP (intersection of the 2 teams) and a potential analyst firm choosing to join the survey before publication.

Agree on next meeting date and time

Next meeting will be on Tuesday, July 8th at 15:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting.

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One Response to “Server Team 20080701 meeting minutes”

  1. Jeremy Bicha Says:

    This isn’t really the right spot to bring this up, but I’m dissatisfied with the Ubuntu Server Team’s apparent decision to go with Ebox over Webmin. Currently, the argument seems to be a Debian developer quit maintaining the official Debian webmin build in December 2005 (lack of time & motivation in his words). And webmin supposedly breaks servers.

    However, webmin provides .deb packages (latest version had fixes for Ubuntu Hardy)…which haven’t broken my server. Ebox, on the other hand stores its configuration in its own folder, thus ignoring previous settings and when the program is uninstalled, “reverts” the server back to the settings present before Ebox was installed…however long ago that was.

    A final point (hopefully, this isn’t the real reason): ebox is released as GPL; webmin has a “BSD-like” license. Obviously, both programs need help to conform to Ubuntu’s needs, but I don’t understand how ebox is superior that it “deserves” our attention instead of the widely-used webmin.

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